Gen X were the big kids when I grew up and now are most my bosses now, this is a helpful contemplation.
It is similar for the Ys. Trying to make "experiences" what they love, because they cant afford anything else.
Early 80s kid, right on the line of X and Y still feels like part of the world I grew up in was a figmemt of imagination.
At the same time, doing what I can to givd my kids the town Amish experience. Lots of books, good music, analog inputs. Also trying to teach them to actually use computers, as a tool and not a black screen of doom.
Unsure college will have any relevance to my kids, and I plan to put everything into them, to establish the next generation.
That’s all we can do. The positive take is that we got here with no support and constant opposition. We can push it back in the immediate. But the kids have to see it. It can’t be pushed later. Too many parents punt on childhood and cede imprinting to beast screen garbage.
The hard part for those who don't live by the system--because we don't want to die by it--is that the system still provides the illusion of a promised path. I'm graduating my second homeschooled student, and we're looking at all the possibilities, starting with a gap year to work and save and figure out what's next, if anything. The obvious paths (college, military) are all so streamlined for service to the Beast that it's hard to know what to do.
Everybody else is so proud to be throwing their 18yo into the maw of the debt-monster they call college, as if the child had accomplished something already. We're just (like you put it) embracing Loserville until a path opens up. We've got some smart, learned kids here, and there's hardly a place for them to go that doesn't compromise what they know to be true of themselves and God and reality. Fortunately, God knows where they're all going. But I? Not a clue. We just don't have the social structure to support the choices we've made. But we couldn't make any other choices with a clear conscience.
This is true. The assumption is creating a path through to reality is appealing, but they have to want it and see value in it. It’s a fine line. The Bandlings have bought into family support and vision but in their own ways. I think the key is to see the hollowness of the House of Lies before it generates appeal. But each case is unique. I don’t give too specific advice because of that.
If they have yet to develop. Work and wait is not bad as long as they are building.
If they must college with no guidance, go cheap. Unless all community colleges are trash in diving distance, not a bad step one. Practical over academic also possible.
There are still some polytechnic schools at the state level that are:
“It turns out that at the cusp of the crisis the massive ball of the state can be nudged to achieve better outcomes. This insight is of high relevance to us today, seeing that we—again—got ourselves into end times.”
Thank you John.
Gen X were the big kids when I grew up and now are most my bosses now, this is a helpful contemplation.
It is similar for the Ys. Trying to make "experiences" what they love, because they cant afford anything else.
Early 80s kid, right on the line of X and Y still feels like part of the world I grew up in was a figmemt of imagination.
At the same time, doing what I can to givd my kids the town Amish experience. Lots of books, good music, analog inputs. Also trying to teach them to actually use computers, as a tool and not a black screen of doom.
Unsure college will have any relevance to my kids, and I plan to put everything into them, to establish the next generation.
That’s all we can do. The positive take is that we got here with no support and constant opposition. We can push it back in the immediate. But the kids have to see it. It can’t be pushed later. Too many parents punt on childhood and cede imprinting to beast screen garbage.
The hard part for those who don't live by the system--because we don't want to die by it--is that the system still provides the illusion of a promised path. I'm graduating my second homeschooled student, and we're looking at all the possibilities, starting with a gap year to work and save and figure out what's next, if anything. The obvious paths (college, military) are all so streamlined for service to the Beast that it's hard to know what to do.
Everybody else is so proud to be throwing their 18yo into the maw of the debt-monster they call college, as if the child had accomplished something already. We're just (like you put it) embracing Loserville until a path opens up. We've got some smart, learned kids here, and there's hardly a place for them to go that doesn't compromise what they know to be true of themselves and God and reality. Fortunately, God knows where they're all going. But I? Not a clue. We just don't have the social structure to support the choices we've made. But we couldn't make any other choices with a clear conscience.
This is true. The assumption is creating a path through to reality is appealing, but they have to want it and see value in it. It’s a fine line. The Bandlings have bought into family support and vision but in their own ways. I think the key is to see the hollowness of the House of Lies before it generates appeal. But each case is unique. I don’t give too specific advice because of that.
Follow their natural inclinations.
If they have yet to develop. Work and wait is not bad as long as they are building.
If they must college with no guidance, go cheap. Unless all community colleges are trash in diving distance, not a bad step one. Practical over academic also possible.
There are still some polytechnic schools at the state level that are:
1) cheap
2) teach real skills.
They have to want it. And that has to be set in the base code well in advance of young adulthood. It starts in childhood.
I'm not really asking for advice. Just noticing.
“As long as they can pretend the Clown teat is made of bootstraps” !! Nice.
“It turns out that at the cusp of the crisis the massive ball of the state can be nudged to achieve better outcomes. This insight is of high relevance to us today, seeing that we—again—got ourselves into end times.”
From today’s cliodynamics substack
https://open.substack.com/pub/peterturchin/p/how-do-societies-end-end-times?r=395qbq&utm_medium=ios